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Tasmanian Wagners

3/1/2023

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PictureTheresa Wagner c.1910 before she left Tasmania for NZ in 1915
Many of you know that an Aussie joined the Alve family in New Zealand in 1917. Theresa Wagner was the 12th of 13 children born to Philipp and Caroline Wagner whose families arrived in Tasmania in 1855 from Germany. Transportation of English convicts ended in 1853 and labour was needed to develop what was then known as Van Diemen's Land so many Europeans began arriving. The following year (1856) the state's name was changed to Tasmania.

After a little OE in New Zealand, Theresa married Henry Alve in All Saints Church Palmerston North and they spent the next 40 years together on the family farm at Rangitane, on the banks of the Manawatu River near Opiki. They retired to Longburn around 1963 and died: Henry in 1968 shortly after their 50th wedding anniversary and Theresa in 1971. They are buried on a family plot at Kelvin Grove cemetery, Palmerston North.

Following a visit in October 2022 by Terry & Margaret Alve during which many Wagner cousins were contacted, Terry has produced a 10 minute video about Theresa's life both in Tasmania and New Zealand see: ​https://www.alve.nz/media.html

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A more detailed report of this visit is available in blog posts in our companion website here: ​https://milne-alve.weebly.com/news

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Terry


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Update from Terry Alve

9/5/2022

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The 2nd Generation of Alve's at the 1995 Family Reunion. Only Ivan Alve (age 90) and Jean Alve are alive today.
In January this year I celebrated my 70th birthday with closer family and friends at our home in Tawa, Wellington. While I continue to minister as priest with Porirua Anglicans and assist with their food bank; I spend increasing amounts of time doing genealogical research and writing.

My primary assistant in all of this is the 'My Heritage' genealogical research programme I use. Currently I am having my DNA analysed to assist with verifying and extending family links. Please contact me if you would like to know more about this, or if you want confirmation or information about your branch of the family. My database currently records nearly 6,500 individuals. In addition to working with My Heritage, I also regularly refer to 'Ancestry.com' and 'Family Search' programmes to help extend my research.

This year I am focusing on my grandmother Theresa Wagner's ancestry. While several of her family visited Tasmania where she was born and met with relatives there in the 1970's and 80's, I have not had the privilege. I am currently planning to be there for two weeks in late October into November with Margaret my wife to meet descendants of her siblings and cousins - there are many of them. Both of Theresa's parents Philip Wagner and Caroline Hauke arrived in Hobart from Germany in 1855. Grandmother Theresa took the opportunity to visit her uncle William Hauke in Dunedin in 1915 and by the end of WW1 had married Henry Alve in the Manawatu, only returning to Tasmania for brief visits around the times of her parent's deaths in 1920 and 1931.


It is now less than two years before some of us will celebrate the sesqui-centennial (150 years) of the marriage of Carl and Maria Theresa Alve (nee Mollers) - our first New Zealand ancestors. They married on Valentines Day 1874 in St Augustine's Catholic church, Gelsenkirchen in the Ruhr Valley, Germany. We understand that theirs was part of a group marriage ceremony with several couples marrying at the same time - such was the life and busyness of the church and priest Father Schulte at the time. To mark the occasion I propose that we gather in Palmerston North during the weekend of 17-18 February 2024. Carl's and Maria's graves are in the Palmerston North cemetery and they spent their latter years in the Manawatu developing the Rangitane Alve farms. I propose to have written by then a fuller version of their lives than previously published.

Then in late March 1926 it will be time to celebrate 150years since the arrival of Carl and Maria Theresa with their daughter Anna Catherine who later married George Busch in 1898 near Featherston. I think it appropriate that we celebrate this anniversary in Wellington. More about that later.

Interest in Alve-related genealogical facts remains high as younger descendants give thought to their origins and whakapapa. I regularly field requests for information as I am sure some of you older also get. It is a privilege to know a bit about the family and to be able to share that. Occasional gatherings, like we had in both 1995 and 2015 in Palmerston North, keep the flame burning and us all at least a little connected....
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Margaret and Terry Talk

28/4/2021

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There have been several significant Margaret's in my life not least Margaret (nee Milne) my wife and Margaret Weir my sister. But today I have had a lovely chat with Margaret my 2nd cousin - Margaret Berryman from Auckland whose mother Elza was my father, Val Alve's first cousin. 

Among other things we mused about our grandchildren - she has a few more than me - and about how some of them begin to take an interest in things genealogical. This warms the hearts of oldies like us.

We remembered fondly the 1995 Family Reunion where a number of our parent's generation were present but who are no longer with us. Soberly we reminded ourselves that we - the 3rd generation of Alve descendants born in New Zealand - are now the oldies.

I remembered that Hilton Alve and my mum Joyce were among the 50 present at the 2015 Easter Alve gathering in Palmerston North. Just a few weeks before this Alve Purdom had died. My uncle Ivan Alve will turn 90 in June as he and William Alve (Eddie's son) are the only 2nd generation Alve descendants alive. We also acknowledge that Jean (Hilton's wife) continues living in Taupo.

Another awarenessesd we canvassed included the two significant Alve 150th anniversaries coming up soon:
  • 14th February 2024 marks the anniversary of Carl & Maria's marriage in St Augustine's, Gelsenkirchen, Germany, and

  • 23rd March 2026 is the anniversary of the arrival of Carl, Maria and Anna (Mary Busch) Alve in Wellington Harbour after a 100 day voyager from Bremerhaven, Germany aboard the Gutenberg.
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​Carl and Maria are buried in the Terrace End Cemetery, Palmerston North after living in the Wairarapa until 1900 before developing a farm with their children out of standing bush at Rangitane, south from Palmerston North, parts of which were farmed by Alves until 1970.

I plan shortly to canvas family descendants with a view to organising, probably in Palmerston North or Manawatu, an Alve Reunion around the time of the 150th anniversary of Maria and Carl's marriage.

Please comment below with your thoughts about such a celebration.

Terry Alve

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Hilton Alve 1926-2015 RIP

24/9/2015

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The Alve family have today lost another of the 2nd generation of Alve's born in NZ. Hilton's biography in Alve.org begins,
Hilton was the third of Eddie and Laura’s children. He attended Opiki school briefly before transferring to Taiakitahuna. After his parents’ separation he moved to live in Palmerston North with his mother where he went to school first at Westend for a few months before concluding his schooling at Central School. He left school at the end of 1940, forgoing high school due to the outbreak of war.
Hilton moved to live in Taupo with his wife Jean and two daughters, Christine and Pauline, in 1955. They have lived there ever since, occupying their present home on the eastern side of Taupo in 1991. Their third child Russell was born in 1960.
Our loving regards at this time are especially directed to Jean, Christine, Pauline, Russell and their families. Hilton's funeral will be held in Taupo on Sat. 26 Sept. at 1.30pm.
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Hilton Alve at his Taupo Home
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Joyce Alve 1929-2015

14/8/2015

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Joyce died peacefully in the early hours of Wednesday 12 August at the Julia Wallace Rest Home Hospital in Palmerston North aged 85. Joyce spent her life in the Manawatu. She was the third and youngest child of Thomas and Annie Elcox who lived in Rongotea where her father owned a stock cartage business.

During WW 2 she moved with her widowed mother and siblings to a small dairy farm in Kellows Line, Bainesse. She attended Bainesse School, worked in a dairy at Himitangi and trained and worked as a hair dresser.

She married Val Alve in Feb 1951 shortly before her mother died. Her four children: Terence, Margaret, Gordon and Christine were born between 1952 and 1965. After her marriage she moved with Val to the Alve family farm at Rangitane near the Opiki Suspension (Toll) Bridge. Between 1953-1955 Val and Joyce worked for farmer Paddy Quin living in a cottage at Makerua, before spending a year share milking for Jim Andrews at Bainesse.

In 1956 they moved to the Alve Homestead at Rangitane where Val share milked for his father, before buying the farm around the time the Manawatu R. high stop banks were built and a new house built outside the river catchment area in 1963. They continued dairy farming to 1970 when the farm was sold and they moved to spend the rest of their lives in Palmerston North. In PN Joyce found employment variously at the Longburn dairy factory, PDC tearooms and cooking at the Chiswick Park rest home.

Val died in 1999 and Joyce lived with her son Gordon until she moved to the Julia Wallace Home in September 2013. Joyce is survived by her four children; 9 grandchildren and 9 great grandchildren.

Joyce's funeral service will be in the Beauchamps funeral home chapel at 11.30am on Sat. 15 Aug. at 11.30am. This will be followed by a light lunch. A graveside committal service will be at the Kelvin Grove Cemetery at 2pm.

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June 2015 Flood at Rangitane

22/6/2015

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News Media Photo forwarded by Warren Meech & Jonathan Alve - Click to Enlarge
Yet again the Mighty Manawatu R. in flood. A number of us walked to the eastern tower of the old Opiki toll bridge (picture centre) Easter Sunday following the mini-Reunion. We also visited the flood pumps at Burkes Drain bridge (25% from top and left of pic) over highway 56, which are designed to quickly de-flood the Taonui Basin catchment area (top right of pic).
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R.I.P. Alve & Ken

3/4/2015

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PictureAlve Purdom
Two dear family members who were planning to attend the Alve Family Mini-Reunion in Palmerston North on Easter Day 2015 have died the weekend before.

On Saturday 28 March Ken McLeod died in Taupo. Ken was the long time partner of Christine Rose (nee Alve) and son-in-law to Hilton & Jean Alve. Ken's death notice is here.

The following day Lionel (Alve) Purdom died suddenly at the Willard Rest Home in Palmerston North, just 2 months short of his 90th birthday. With Alve's passing only three of the second generation Alves survive - Hilton, Ivan and Bill. Alve's biography is here. (You will need a password to view this.)


The wider Alve whanau (family) express their sincere condolences to Ken's partner Christine and Alve's daughters Janice, Neryl & Andrea, and their families as they journey on without their dear ones. May they know much comfort. 

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Easter 2015 Alve Mini-Reunion

23/3/2015

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Updated Wed 1 April @ 5:30pm
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In excess of 50 family members have registered for this event. 

The three Easter Day (5 April) venues are:

  1. Palmerston North Cemetery, Main Street North - 10am
  2. Palmerston North Convention Centre, just south of the Square - 11:30am
  3. Rangitane in the vicinity of Alve Road on SH 56 - 4pm
P.N. Terrace End Cemetery
The P.N. Convention Centre
Kelvin Grove Cemetery
Alve Road, Rangitane - SH 56
Programme

1. P.N. Cemetery
  • Gathering at the graveside of Carl, Maria, Charlie, Dolly and Anna. This will include a short Easter Day service, reflection time and time to visit other family graves in the P.N. Cemetery and in the nearby Kelvin Grove cemetery.

2. P.N. Convention Centre - free access in the Church St. Carpark behind the Centre
  • Refreshments at 11:30am.
  • Formal welcome and entertainment by the P.N. Town Crier - Caroline Robinson - a family friend
  • Catered lunch at 12:30p.m.
  • The P.N. Convention Centre Sunday Lunch Menu is:
    ·         Warm chicken salad on sourdough baguette with bacon and avocado
    ·         Soft knot rolls filled with roast corned beef, spiced mustard and watercress
    ·         BBQ braised pork belly with a marmalade glaze and pickled cabbage
    ·         Panzanella salad with tuna mayo, cucumber and garlic croutons
    ·         Chunky style fresh seasonal fruit platter
    ·         Cake of the day
    ·         Freshly brewed tea, coffee and iced water
    Dietary requirements such as vegetarian, gluten free and dairy free can be catered for, please let us know if you require this asap.
  • Formal photographs at 1:15pm
  • Audio Visual Presentation by Terry Alve at 1:45pm
  • Afternoon Tea at 3pm

3. Visit to Rangitane - the site of Family Farms from 1900-1970
  • Gather at the Alve Road Flood Levels Signpost at 4pm
  • Walk over part of the original farm
  • Visit the new Taonui Basin pumping station adjacent to the Burke's Drain Floodgates

Other Info
  • Parking is FREE in the Church Street Carpark behind the Convention Centre
  • The Convention Centre Venue is Downstairs for ease of access
  • New ALVE RD. signs will be available for purchase @ $25 each (see Julianne or Sue)
  • You will require private transport for the Alve Rd. visit
  • Come for some or all of the Day
  • Please create and wear your name tag
Attendees
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Registrations Now Open for Alve Family Easter Day Mini-Reunion - 5 April 2015

3/2/2015

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Of the 2nd Generation of Alve's and spouses photographed at the Alve Reunion at Easter 1995 only 5 survive. Join with Ivan, Jean, Joyce & Hilton Alve plus Alve Purdom, and those not there - Bill and Gayle Alve - Easter Day 2015 in Palmerston North.

Read all about the Easter Day 2015 Alve Mini-Reunion at
http://www.alve.nz/easter-2015-mini-reunion.html


Reflect on the 1995 Reunion here:
http://www.alve.nz/1995-alve-family-reunion.html

Read our latest newsletter here:
http://eepurl.com/bc5EED


Please Register by Sunday 15 March
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www.alve.nz

8/12/2014

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Just to keep you on your toes, www.alve.org.nz has become www.alve.nz 

In fact if you continue to use www.alve.org.nz it will direct to www.alve.nz for several months, but when the longer URL sub runs out it will be gone. It's all done in the name of simplicity, we hope.
Cheers,
Terry

P.S. We will have online registrations for the Easter Day 2015 mini-Reunion available very early in the new year. This will include pricing info. Watch this space or, better still, join our eList and get news red hot, off the press.
www.alve.nz
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