Relative Profile: Peter-Jörg Nocken 1945 -

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I discovered Peter-Jörg Nocken when I realised he had a link to my Lamsfuβ ancestors in the region of Hückeswagen where my grandfather Carl Wilhelm Alve was born and grew up. He is my 5th cousin as the image indicates.
In March 2023 we had this exchange on the MyHeritage message board,

Hi Peter
Greetings from New Zealand.
I am a descendant of the Carl Wilhelm=Maria Theresia Alve/Alfe/Alfer (Germany) family who emigrated to NZ from Gelsenkirchen in Germany in 1875/6. I note that your 3xgreat grandfather Peter Wilhelm Lamsfuβ was a younger brother to Anna Lamsfuβ.* I further note that you trace your ancestors back to a Christian Lamsfuβ who was born at the end of the 17th century. During 2019 my wife Margaret and I spent some time in Hückeswagen tracing my Alve ancestors many of whom were born in that area. While there I visited the wee village of Lamsfuβ nearby with a couple of American cousins who also have Alve, and therefore Lamsfuβ, ancestry like me...
Terry Alve
Wellington, NZ

Hi Terry,
You are completely right concerníng your/my forefathers in or around Hückeswagen. I myself was born there in 1945. Christian Lamsfuß is the oldest I could find. My grandmother was his 3x great granddaughter, if you understand, what I mean. No, I do not have any information of a family connection to the village of Lamsfuß. In Hückeswagen all church books are transformed into digital lists. Maybe you can find more information there (if you do not have them yet)...
Best wishes 
Peter

* Anna Lamsfuβ was Carl (Jnr) Alve's grandmother.

Peter mentions Christian Lamsfuß who was born in the late 1600s. Me married Catharina von der Höhe and together they were the grandparents of Johann Wilhelm Lamsfuß (1759-1811) who married Catharina Gertrudis Kemmering (1763-1829). These two - Johann Wilhelm and Catharina Gertrudis - are Peter's and my most recent common ancestors (MRCA). They seem to have spent their whole lives in and around Hückeswagen. Another view of Peter's ancestry to our MRCA is this, If you click on the image you may get a larger view of this ancestry chart.

Peter-Jörg Nocken

Peter's ancestry chart above also depicts our most recent common ancestors (MRCA) - Lambsfuß=Kemmering - in the context of his wider maternal family tree:  I find two things notable about this.

1. Anna Catharina Kemper nee Bosbach (b.1790 Kürten) is likely a close relative, if not the sister, of Wilhelm Bosbach (b.1792 in Kürten). Wilhelm was Carl Alve's grandfather - the Carl Alve who came to New Zealand in 1876
2. Peter's grandfather, Peter Johann Scheurer (1879-1916), was killed in France fighting during WW1.

While I do not know a lot about Peter-Jörg, I do know that he was born in Hückeswagen, Germany and I understand he has been a prominent Jurist (Lawyer). A Google search on his name highlights his involvement as a former Vice President of the Thuringian State Office for the Protection of the Constitution (LfV).
​At the age of 80 we might assume he is well into his retirement now.

​Terry Alve

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