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Thomas Richard and Annie Mabel Elcox are my maternal grandparents. Annie was a Farmer from Glen Oroua in the Manawatu. Tom arrived in Aotearoa in 1924 after four years serving with the British Army in France, Belgium and India. Annie was born and grew up as the second youngest of a large dairy farming family. They both died young so that my siblings and I, their only grandchildren, never knew them. Their stories are a fascinating study of a very endowed couple serving their families, communities and world. They are told in a new publication, The Grandparents We Never Knew. Tom (1899-1933) grew up in Areley Kings, Worcestershire, England before offering four years of youthful service in WW1 and on the North West Frontier of India (1917-1921) with the Machine Gun Corps. In New Zealand he very quickly established an agricultural contracting and stock transportation business and fathered three children before he was tragically killed when his truck overturned with a load of sheep aboard in 1933. Annie (1897-1951) was gifted musically gaining ATCL in 1923. She worked as a church and community musician and music teacher into her marriage. Living as a widow with three young children, she took on the task of maintainig their family business at Rongotea into WW2 when manpower shortages demaned its sale in 1941. She spent the last ten years of her life raising her children, the second of whom had been born with cerebral palsy. Annie died soon after her younger daughter's marriage at age 53. Flipbook and a PDF copies of this publication are below.
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| Having given thought to this DNA link between Ivan Alve and Heinz-Georg Selbach, I turned my attention to searching for anything more available about Adelheid Witting. My interest was piqued when a DNA match between Ivan and Wolfgang Zeigler indicated some Wittings are probably related. The mesage that came with the match was that Ivan's MRCA with Wolfgang's Witting line was likely to be Ivan's third or fourth great grandparent. In other words Adelheid Witting's parent or grandparent. The family tree that came with Wolfgang's DNA information identified these people (see below) as Wilhelm Antonius Witting (1769-1845) and his father Arnold Witting (1723-1797). Is Adelheid Witting Wilhelm's daughter? Several disqualifiers emerged as I pursued this line of enquiry.
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- Wilhelm Herman Franziskus Christianus Witting (b.1752-)
- Johannes Josephus Witting (b.1754-)
- Wilhelm Anton Christian Witting (b.1756-)
- Joannes Fridericus Antonius Witting (b.1764-)
To celebrate this significant event 66 descendants of Carl and Theresia are gathering at Masters Hall, Pahiatua on the weekend of 17-18 February. We chose this Pahiatua venue because it is near where the Alves settled at Alfredton Road, Eketāhuna in 1880 - four years after arriving in Aotearoa New Zealand as assisted immigrants. During those four years Carl worked for the railways building the Remutaka line and then the line from Featherston to Masterton while he discharged his debt to the Government under the Vogel immigration scheme. A fellow immigrant family the Schormanns who had travelled on the ship Gutenburg to Aotearoa jointly farmed the Eketahuna land in the early years. Part of the Reunion weekend will be a Sunday bus tour to Eketahuna to explore sites of interest, including the original farm block in Alfredton Road.
These, and many other matters relating to Theresia's and Carl's colourful life, are explored in a new book to be released on Valentine's Day. Entitled Valentine's Day 1874 and subtitled, A Ruhr Valley Romance Terry Alve writes of their German background and meeting in Gelsenkirchen. He asks why they emigrated and explores how their life together panned out in Aotearoa New Zealand until Carl's death in 1910. You will find a purchase link at www.alve.nz after Valentine's Day.
To mark the marriage sesqui we have scheduled a Zoom call at 7pm (NZDT) on Valentine's Day 14 February 2024 - an opportunity for brief dialogue (no more than 40 mins.) on the Sesquicentennial of Thersia & Carl’s wedding day.
Join us via this link:
https://us04web.zoom.us/j/4112201146?pwd=fRa0eYclcvqPfx8CnPgXnvTMBi4S80.1&omn=74267779934
There will be a surprise for those of us who tune in!
Theresa Wagner c.1910 before she left Tasmania for NZ in 1915 After a little OE in New Zealand, Theresa married Henry Alve in All Saints Church Palmerston North and they spent the next 40 years together on the family farm at Rangitane, on the banks of the Manawatu River near Opiki. They retired to Longburn around 1963 and died: Henry in 1968 shortly after their 50th wedding anniversary and Theresa in 1971. They are buried on a family plot at Kelvin Grove cemetery, Palmerston North.
Following a visit in October 2022 by Terry & Margaret Alve during which many Wagner cousins were contacted, Terry has produced a 10 minute video about Theresa's life both in Tasmania and New Zealand see: https://www.alve.nz/media.html
A more detailed report of this visit is available in blog posts in our companion website here: https://milne-alve.weebly.com/news
Terry
Deaths since 1994 are:
* descendant * spouse of descendent
1996 18 Apr - Rose Te Maari (nee Busch), 23 Jul - Bill Busch, 2 Sep - Maree Alve (Ivan), 27 Oct - Elvene Meech (nee Alve)
1999 17 May - Gwen Davie (nee Purdom), 28 July - Olga Palenski (nee Purdom), 4 Oct - Val Alve
2001 4 Feb - Myra Jennings (nee Simmons), 13 Sep - Tis Emmens (nee Busch)
2004 15 Jun - Harry Alve, 6 Jul - Hazel Bailey (nee Pedersen), 6 Dec - Beth Evans (nee Busch)
2005 5 Oct - Jack Alve
2006 6 Jan - Lisle Alve, 5 Feb - Colin Alve, 14 Oct - Russell Pedersen
2009 24 Nov - Meryl McPherson (nee Alve)
2010 14 Aug - Dennis Alve
2011 14 Aug - Mary Alve (Jack)
2012 4 Jul - Noeline King (nee Alve), 20 Jul - Phil Alve, 12 Oct - Marion Kerepa (nee Purdom)
2013 4 Sep - Thelma Avery (nee Pedersen), 13 Sep - Lila Purdom (Alve)
2014 3 Sep - Thelma Pedersen (Russell)
Surviving descendents of this generation are:
Lionel Purdom (b 1925), Hilton Alve (b 1926), Ivan Alve (b 1931) and Bill Alve (b 1855)
Surviving spouses from this generation are:
Joyce Alve - b 1929 (Val), Jean Alve - b 1931 (Russell) and Gayle Alve - b 1937 (Dennis)
There has been one marriage in this generation:
Dennis Alve m. 8 Apr 2009 Gayle Harris
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